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Hi all:
Yesterday my Gforce 9600 GT got on fire, dead, burned, ....
So question ¿HD4670? or ¿Gforge9800 GT?, im tired of noisy cards so im even thinking on a passive solution.
Any recomendations are welcome
For a moment there, I though my card burned (also 9600 gt user XD)
Stay with GF! The force is in all Jedi, and cards alike!
Passive solutions are ok, but they tend to run hotter and so have a shorter life - I'd suggest the noise is worth it for the extra life-span.
As for which card... no idea :P
1st. Price-range?
.......€100 to €200 to €300....or what? :cool:
2nd. What is the main purpose of the card?
.......Just gaming ET:QW or would you like to do other crap like photoshop poop or simular? :rolleyes:
3rd. Is it worth to only upgrade the card?
.......As I see you loading the maps as one of the slowest players.:0)'
4th. Is your system PSU capable to give enough power for a specific GFX?
There is no need for buying a highend GFX-card for a lot of money,
if you set all the ingame graphics on low.
I would recommend Nvidia over ATI....lol...for no special reason though. :))))))
Firstly, I am neither an nvidia or ATI fanboy , I have owned both and switch between both companies on a "bang for buck " basis. You need to let us know what your budget is .Air .
Right now guys the only show in town is ATI . Nvidia have nothing on a price/performance basis that competes at present except perhaps an 260 if you can find one for sale .(however you would need to compare its cost to that of ati 4870). Right now , for value for money you go ATI . There is no question of this , even if you think there is . Pretty much every hardware review site says the same , even the ones with nvidia bias.
I would suggest you don't go passive cooling but rather look for a card that has a quiet fan on it , or perhaps think about an after market cooling solution . There are lots of them .
Budget £100 , Radeon 4850, Nvidia’s GeForce GTS 250 . However If you are a gamer - recommend the HD 5750 over the other cards since it supports DirectX 11 and lower power idle states, providing that is, it fits your budget.
Budget £130 :You can still get budget GeForce GTX 260-216s around, but prefer the Radeon HD 5770 1GB route for investment in DirectX 11 and improved power consumption, plus, the performance is about the same.
Budget £200-230 :it has to be the ATI Radeon HD 5850 1GB. Prices do fluctuate roughly around the £210 mark, but given the high demand can go a lot more. With supply slowly increasing according to AMD, the retail price should even out eventually. There is currently no Nvidia alternative available, still, so the HD 5850 has effectively this segment sewn up.
Budget £330-350 (highend)the Radeon HD 5870 1GB Only show in town at this price .
I have this sapphire 4870 toxic , (http://www1.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=278)which is both quiet and plays all my games at 1920 x 1200 resolution on a 24 inch screen .If I were buying now I would however go for the 5000 series cards for direct x 11 even if I didn't ahve an operating system that had direct x 11 yet ! Those sapphire toxic or vapor x range , (think that is what they market them as now) have a very good heatsink and fan solution that runs quietly even under full load .
Here is the vapor-x series from sapphire . Check out reviews of any card you think of buying before you buy it . I am not saying sapphire are what you should buy but that these vapor-x cards have an upgraded heatsink and fan meaning they run quietly .
Sapphire vapor-X series (http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/VaporX/VaporX_index.aspx?cid=4)
Well point by point:
I got home with a card from a friend (i buy all my gadgets to him since 8 or 9 years) a crapy X300se, i tested now and 1280*1024 all low give a steady 40 fps, so at leat i can game tonight ... :))))))
Money to spend: not more than 100 Euros. Why?? Not a so long time ago a paid 600 Euros for Ati Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB, it was the fastets and expensive card those days,and experience tells me to buy always 1 year old technology
Im not the latest anymore geting in the server, in fact now i get in very fast, reason a new 500GB hard drive, it was only a speed loading problem ( too many unwacht porn on that old hard drive ...:)))))) )
Basically gonna be used for online gaming+some gimp photowork, and yeah no problems of power 600W font.
Yeah Dr.D you are right with ATI, today they have the better price/punch ratio by far, may be Nvidia is more commercial but they products are not that good in Price/punch ratio as Ati are. Nice Radeon you got there, you must be playing >100 fps all time no problem ..:))))))
I had looked here
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2521-2.html
and i found this:
http://www.pixmania.com/es/es/1637126/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-4670-512-mb-gdd.html
i think good ratio price punch. Anyway i think the point is to know when brink will be ready, coz is the only game im after and i want my >60 fps all the time.I know that card can go face to face with my old Gforce 9600 GT, but i dont know how it will perfom on brink. It is so cheap that i think i can spend that 60 euros on it and wait one year to buy a HD4850 for 60 euros only for Brink.
I`ll keep searching the net and see what i can found. Thanks for comments.
STAY WITH NVIDIA i have a 9600 GT and u cant beat nvidia overall with the buget ATI cards NVIDIA IS THE FUTURE......
I would then be looking at the ATI 5750 for that kind of money and a quick search seems to show that the xfx 512 mb version is the cheapest of them . Low power consumption, 40nm die and directx 11 future proofed . Pretty much the same performance as the nvidia 250. The 1GB version gives 2 or 3 FPS better so not sure it is worth paying the extra for that . It costs about £90 here in UK which is in and around your budget .
There is a pretty good review from anandtech :
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=1
STAY WITH NVIDIA i have a 9600 GT and u cant beat nvidia overall with the buget ATI cards NVIDIA IS THE FUTURE......
Not sure why you say that LazyBones ? Unless you are just being loyal to a brand . I gave that up long ago when it comes to buying hardware and I would advise you to do the same . If you are referring to openGL support , well that is no longer an issue and hasn't been since more than 5 years now . Right now Nvidia are floundering . They have nothing in answer to ATI's 5000 range (and indeed the 4000 series beat them up pretty badly too) and they are having huge problems with their fermi cards yields as well as getting them to work . ATI has a better card at pretty much every price point with the exception of the GTX 260 which is on par with ATI 4870 . Only problem is they are getting hard to find in shops. The ATI 5000 series cards are 40nm die , hence lower power consumption, less heat , easier to cool hence less noise . They are directx 11 cards , which I know doesn't mean a lot right now but may do in the future . there is nothing in the Nvidia line up that can match that at present .
When buying hardware , what counts is the best bang for buck at the time of purchase . Inevitably , what you buy will be out of date within 3-12 months anyway depending on what component it is . I have moved from AMD to Intel , ATI to Nvidia , motherboard manufacturer to motherboard manufacturer and back again as it suits me . What suits me is who is making the best product for my budget at the time I buy .Nothing else . I am not swayed by brand loyalty or fanboyism , only by how good the product is versus the competition for the price I want to pay. That is the only sensible way to buy computer components . A graphics card is a graphics card and a cpu is a cpu . They will all function . The only guide should be price/performance with a smattering of future proofing , noise , cooling, power consumption thrown in for consideration .
thx for info Dr.
I have it clear now, it will be a cheap HD4670
http://www.pixmania.com/es/es/2497312/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-4670-ultimate-e.html
wich can be found on the 60 euros range, having in mind it only has to long 1 year, or HD5750
http://www.pixmania.com/es/es/3805380/art/sapphire-technology/radeon-hd-5750-1-gb-gddr5.html
wich should long for 2 years and had a cost of about 100 euros. Not sure wich one, but sure NVIDIA must impress me again to gain me as customer (last 2 cards from nvidia burned in a 3 years period, an GTS8600 and the mentioned 9600GT wich is not impressive)
Still remember my first 1Gz processor, it was an AMD Duron 800 MHz, overcloked to 1GZ ... :))))))
About new CPUS,GPUS,HDrives and so on, i think that they say they went to the moon with a 286x86 processor, and a crappy Core2Duo of today is 1000 times faster, i dont think we need anymore last toy unless it is your hobby, wich was my case till 3 or 4 years. ( I had build all my computers since the times of my first 386x86 ....:)))))))
But this is of course a personal opinion, may be you think the other way around.
I meant to ask you if your card was still under warranty . I had a BFG 8800 gtx last year which gave up on me. BFG have a 10 year warranty so I sent it back to them and they fixed it for free :D I now have it as a spare , just in case . I then bought my 4870 . I had originally intended to get another 8800 gtx to SLI them when the price dropped but the price never dropped enough and then they stopped making them . It ran very hot anyway . Prior to that I had x 2 7900 GT's in SLI [Just incase anyone thinks I am an ATI fanboy :) ] Since then , I am not too sure that 2 card solutions are a great idea anyway .
Check out your cards warranty . It is worth getting it fixed if it costs you nothing and you would then have it as a spare card if ever you need one . What make of card was it anyway ?
Im not sure but thats what i have:
NV GF9600GT 512MB DDR3
Reg.Nr.DE 44938294 sep 08,
I´ll ask Dario(he sold it to me) about warranty, but yesterday computer smells burn and this came from the case -*-, so i think the GPU is Toasted, but thanks for tip.
i found it here have a look:
http://www.manli.com/productshow.php?sectionid=2&productid=45
ROFL, from the link you posted to manli site I checked out their support for their Nvidia graphics cards . Here is what I found and this is a direct quote from website :
More NVIDIA graphics technical support please click below link:
http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx
And lo and behold, the quoted link takes you to ............. AMD website LMAO . It is so good I feel I have to post a screenshot . I couldn't find anything about their warranty on their site but from googling it seems it is 1 year . I would ask your mate and find out . Warranties are worth considering when buying any component . The longer the better , as it means the manufacturer stands by their product and also in computer hardware a 2-3 year warranty is usually enough as you would probably be upgrading after that time frame anyway . Hard disks should be 5 years at least though . It is , of course , always useful to have spare parts in case one breaks or you want to build a second machine .
ROFL, from the link you posted to manli site I checked out their support for their Nvidia graphics cards . Here is what I found and this is a direct quote from website :
More NVIDIA graphics technical support please click below link:
http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx
And lo and behold, the quoted link takes you to ............. AMD website LMAO . It is so good I feel I have to post a screenshot . I couldn't find anything about their warranty on their site but from googling it seems it is 1 year . I would ask your mate and find out . Warranties are worth considering when buying any component . The longer the better , as it means the manufacturer stands by their product and also in computer hardware a 2-3 year warranty is usually enough as you would probably be upgrading after that time frame anyway . Hard disks should be 5 years at least though . It is , of course , always useful to have spare parts in case one breaks or you want to build a second machine .
+1
Add Manli to lammer liste xdddd
well i think you have seen me gaming today, ETQW crash game, after that computer hangs, and so on and on.
So thanks for the tip m8 and i will ask for that ATI 5750. ;#'
See you around
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Good choice m8.
You wont regret it.
well i think you have seen me gaming today, ETQW crash game, after that computer hangs, and so on and on.
So thanks for the tip m8 and i will ask for that ATI 5750. ;#'
See you around
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Agree with Trieb . For that budget , I really don't think there is anyhting else out there that gives you what this card does . Decent framerates in today's games, 40 nm die, low power consumption (compared to competition ) , directx 11 . Willing to bet you will be pleasantly surprised with that card compared to what you had .
Don't know if you have got your new gfx card .Air but just saw this on UK etailer site . 4870 1 gb vapor-x for £99
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-204-SP&utm_source=newsletter20100120&utm_medium=email
Maybe some spanish or euro retailers are doing similar discounts.
I'd still go for 5000 series card if I could though :)
thanks for tip m8, i change up my mind. I still use XP SP3, even it has no more support from MS, the last installation is beggin for a format, so to say it short a will take a ati 4650 on the 30<>40 Euros range, and when Windows 7 gets his 1ª S.P. i will grab a new computer for it, this one will rest only for internet purposes. Hopefully Brink will get out at same time than SP1 for W7.. :))))))
ATI 4650 1GB DDR2 for only 30 euros. Brand XFX. I think this one will last till brink gets out, then it will be time for Ati 5000 series.
Framerate 1280*1024 all medium > 100 fps, so im in again for funny fragging.
See you all around
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